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hottub63

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2013, 03:27:44 pm »
Here's another post where someone says its half chlorine and half mps. http://www.poolspaforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=12744

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2013, 03:27:44 pm »

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2013, 03:29:15 pm »
Call them and ask - then report back here. I know where my money is on the answer.

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2013, 04:08:15 pm »
I did call them. You can do the same thing. It's the Colmen Bright ideas for your home in Grapevine tx.

They are the big hot springs dealer here in the Dallas area.

Ask for John there and he'll tell you what he told me. Ag freshwater stick, plus ozone, plus 2 caps of enchanced shock once a week.

I'm curious what you can find out.

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2013, 04:13:06 pm »
Spaguard Enhanced Shock

Active Ingredients:

Sodium Dichloro-s-Triazinetrione - 58.2%

Other Ingredients:

41.8%
If you can't sell it on eBay, it may not even qualify as landfill.

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2013, 04:17:06 pm »
That what I was saying. I was told that those "other" ingredients were MPS...if you google it, it looks like lots of other people think the same thing. Is this not the case?

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2013, 04:24:44 pm »
I did call them. You can do the same thing. It's the Colmen Bright ideas for your home in Grapevine tx.

They are the big hot springs dealer here in the Dallas area.

Ask for John there and he'll tell you what he told me. Ag freshwater stick, plus ozone, plus 2 caps of enchanced shock once a week.

I'm curious what you can find out.

1st thing I would change is to use a more accurate measure than "2 capfuls" I don't think anyone here knows how many tsp or Tbsp that is.
2nd thing is I suggested you call "Spaguard" customer support with this question and not a spa dealer. Only the manufacturing company can answer this with accuracy.
3rd thing is I would ask "John" to explain to you how his advice matches the printed instructions for the manufacturer of the Nature 2 stick. Below are a couple of pastes from the directions.
You have been given some good detailed advice here and either it is not being explained in a way you understand or you are placing the dealers opinion above what you read here.

Low Chlorine RECIPE
• You must strictly follow the Nature2 Spa recipe included in
this manual to maintain proper water chemistry and avoid
health hazards. Failure to follow these instructions can lead
to sickness from bacteria and other noxious organisms.

1 Drain and refill your spa. Balance the water per spa
manufacturer guidelines.
2 Install the Nature2 Spa after water is balanced. Refer to
Assembly and Installation Diagrams below for instructions
regarding your particular model’s installation.
3 Superoxidize the spa water with an EPA registered source
of chlorine according to manufacturer’s instructions to burn off
contaminants and activate cartridge.
• Add 1.5 tablespoons of dichlor to spa per 250 gallons
(approx. 1000 liters).
• Note: 1.5 tablespoons is approximately 3/4 ounce or
24 grams.
• Do not enter the spa if the free available chlorine residual
is over 5 ppm.
Important: Initial superoxidation with dichlor1 is required to
burn off contaminants and activate cartridge.
4 Run spa according to recommendations supplied to you by
the manufacturer of your spa.

Low-Chlorine Recipe
Ingredients:
• Nature2 Spa
• Non-chlorine oxidizer (MPS2)3
• Nature2 Spa Test Strips4, or equivalent (MPS2, pH,
and total alkalinity)
• pH, hardness and total alkalinity adjusting
chemicals
• Dichlor1, EPA registered source

When: What to do:
Every day Run spa according to recommendations supplied to you by
the manufacturer of your spa.
Before Test the water with Nature2 Spa Test Strip
each use equivalent). If the MPS2 level is low, add
1 tablespoon of MPS2 to spa per 250 gallons (approx.
1000 liters). Note: 1 tablespoon is approximately 1/2
ounce or 16 grams.
Use the Nature2 Spa Test Strip (or equivalent) to test the
spa water after each addition of MPS2.
If the test strip indicates levels below the OK range, add 1
tablespoon MPS2 to spa per 250 gallons and re-test. Enter
spa only after test strip indicates a sufficient level of MPS2.
After Add 1 tablespoon of MPS2 to spa per 250 gallons
each use (approx. 1000 liters).
Once Adjust the pH, total alkalinity, and hardness as
per week needed. A convenient way to test pH and total
alkalinity is the Nature2 Spa Test Strip.
Every 4 Drain and refill your spa. Replace Nature2 Spa and
months repeat sanitizer start-up.

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2013, 04:25:32 pm »
That what I was saying. I was told that those "other" ingredients were MPS...if you google it, it looks like lots of other people think the same thing. Is this not the case?

Easily verified with a call to the manufacturer.

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2013, 04:36:05 pm »
Certain ingredients are required by US law to be specifically listed on the labeling. MPS is one of those. Most "inert ingredients are not required to be listed. IF it's MPS, it WOULD be listed as a specific ingredient.

It's NOT MPS


That what I was saying. I was told that those "other" ingredients were MPS...if you google it, it looks like lots of other people think the same thing. Is this not the case?
If you can't sell it on eBay, it may not even qualify as landfill.

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2013, 04:51:53 pm »
Certain ingredients are required by US law to be specifically listed on the labeling. MPS is one of those. Most "inert ingredients are not required to be listed. IF it's MPS, it WOULD be listed as a specific ingredient.

It's NOT MPS


That what I was saying. I was told that those "other" ingredients were MPS...if you google it, it looks like lots of other people think the same thing. Is this not the case?


This...for example, we sell leisure time products and their non-chlorine shock called "Renew" is labeled as Potassium peroxymonosulfate 32.2% Other Ingredients 67.8%

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2013, 05:06:49 pm »
So are you guys saying this enchanced shock should not be used?

Am I using the wrong thing in my hot tub? All of my tests on the dip stick are in the correct range.

I just want to be sure I'm doing the correct thing

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2013, 05:08:22 pm »
One more thing to add...I'm not using a nature2 stick, I'm using the freshwater ag+ stick that the dealer said was meant to to with this system.

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2013, 05:12:27 pm »
So are you guys saying this enchanced shock should not be used?

Am I using the wrong thing in my hot tub? All of my tests on the dip stick are in the correct range.

I just want to be sure I'm doing the correct thing

Not saying it should not be used. Suggesting if you use this product and not MPS then you should always have a maintained chlorine level. Dealer telling you twice a week without regard to usage is very bad advice. The more you use the tub, the more dichlor it will take to keep a constant level.

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2013, 05:13:09 pm »
One more thing to add...I'm not using a nature2 stick, I'm using the freshwater ag+ stick that the dealer said was meant to to with this system.

Same difference

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2013, 05:39:29 pm »
So are you guys saying this enchanced shock should not be used?

Am I using the wrong thing in my hot tub? All of my tests on the dip stick are in the correct range.

I just want to be sure I'm doing the correct thing

just remember this general rule of thumb re: chlorine and sanitation.....a human body will "demand" approx. 1.5 tsp of chlorine per 20-30 min. soak...so what people are saying is that you really can't go by the dealers advice of "throw a cap in twice a week" because if you, your wife, and 3 kids are using the spa for a week straight obviously "a cap full or two" is not going to meet your demand

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2013, 05:49:26 pm »
Thanks for all the advice. This is our first hot tub so I'm learning a lot.

I actually have some regural Chrlone shock. Is this the same as mps (meaning can I use what I have or should I go buy some mps to put in?)

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Re: Silk Balance....is it worth it?
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