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its not about getting your money back...its about the marketing departments ability to use these "systems" to market their spas. When selling things its nice to have options...you may love your bromine system but guess what the lady who wants to plop down 10k on a spa who swam in a salt water pool while on vacation may think she absolutely needs that. Clear ray, nature2, copper systems, silk balance, aquafinesse, ez spa, and on and on and on is marketing folks who realize chlorine has a bad rep among the majority of potential customers so they need a "system" which can be sold as "chlorine free" as possible in order to drive sales. Also ease of use comes into play because lets face it most people want "the easiest way possible" and instant gratificationany tub can be run with a little dichlor, some bleach, muriatic acid and baking soda for dirt dirt cheap so anything above that can technically be called excessive or "not needed"I'm not saying the above mentioned systems are bad or junk...they all work in their own way assuming you actually follow instruction its just a different way of doing thingsbtw if you want help adjusting your alk/pH, post accurate readings of your water, spa size, and I'll let you know exactly what you need to do. My PH bounces High.....
nature 2 + ozone is the best.
Quote from: d00nut on April 24, 2012, 11:49:09 pmnature 2 + ozone is the best. No it is not
I have been reading about the clear ray UV; It sounds really good. I have worked with UV lamps used for killing airborne bacteria and it works well. The UV Bulbs were replaced on a yearly basis and were costly. I do not know thwe price of this particular UV bulb.How much would a retro fit kit for my 2010 J465 cost? Is it hard to install? My recirculation pump is a beast with at least 1 1/2" pvc piping.
Quote from: smackman on April 25, 2012, 09:49:49 amI have been reading about the clear ray UV; It sounds really good. I have worked with UV lamps used for killing airborne bacteria and it works well. The UV Bulbs were replaced on a yearly basis and were costly. I do not know thwe price of this particular UV bulb.How much would a retro fit kit for my 2010 J465 cost? Is it hard to install? My recirculation pump is a beast with at least 1 1/2" pvc piping.I haven't installed one on a pre-2012 J-400 series yet, but on all the others, they are really easy to install. I know the retail price would be approximately $450. Bulb replacements around $80.Do you have ozone in your tub currently smackman?
I am getting a new jacuzzi with the clearray and without a circ pump. I know this is new for jacuzzi this year, but have they explained how it works. Does the water need to be exposed to the light for a minimum amount of time (flow rate thru the tube) to be effective? Or if moving too fast (with the jet pump) in theory all water will be returned sooner to the light tube.I have never owned a pool or spa before so I am going to do exactly as directed by the dealer and see what I do or do not like before I go out on a limb on my own. I have owned aquariums and backyard koi ponds for many years so I am familiar with general water chemistry and filtration. UV "cleaners" have been used in those applications for years primarily for algae.
Quote from: bajabill on April 26, 2012, 10:48:08 amI am getting a new jacuzzi with the clearray and without a circ pump. I know this is new for jacuzzi this year, but have they explained how it works. Does the water need to be exposed to the light for a minimum amount of time (flow rate thru the tube) to be effective? Or if moving too fast (with the jet pump) in theory all water will be returned sooner to the light tube.I have never owned a pool or spa before so I am going to do exactly as directed by the dealer and see what I do or do not like before I go out on a limb on my own. I have owned aquariums and backyard koi ponds for many years so I am familiar with general water chemistry and filtration. UV "cleaners" have been used in those applications for years primarily for algae.why would you not get a circ pump? that is a no-brainer upgrade imo
Here is a way I like to look at things to determine their effectiveness, what would you look for to indicate the clearray was not working? Or, if you dissabled it, what undesirable outcome would occur?Could you also answer this with regard to an ozone system?