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Steve:
Josh, buddy... slow down. :o
What exactly does "top brands" mean to you? Best selling based on annual sales? Does that matter one little bit? Most pros here don't think so including myself who has represented "top brands" and others.
Over the years I've been around here, MANY have asked (or demanded) we "spill the beans" on what we all think is the BEST. The best for whom you may ask? Great question!!
Top brands mean absolutely NOTHING! It doesn't mean they aren't great spas, but your idea of a great spa (ie. overall value to YOU) may well differ from what others deem "best".
It's no science determining who the big boys are. A Google search can find that out in seconds... The really tough part is finding out which is best for you and your family.
Do you think anyone here that has been selling a brand for years is going to suggest their's isn't amoung the best regardless of your criteria? Wade through the BS, list the keys facts that are important to you, determine your budget, find a dealer that is local and will support you after the sale and find a spa that fits you and your family! Listing the top 5 (or however many) brands is a waste of time for us and yourself...
Oh...and for the record... most major manufacturers are within a few bucks per month in operational costs so don't spend too much effort on it... No one company stands leaps and bounds over others in operational costs even though some will claim superiority. It's called marketing... ;)
Steve
Josh:
--- Quote ---Because we live it every day, we can tell you the answer. NO, and why would it benefit anyone other than a manufacturer or the consumer to study and identify their energy consumption. The industry is young and the numbers are relatively small and do not justify a profitable return to afford the expense of third party examination. As you indicate, IF the manufacturer did their own evaluation, it would not be viable in your mind.
Who would pay the third party? Who would benefits from the data? The Maker, the Consumer, the Third Party? What you want is viable and specific proof from an unbiased, outside resource who get's nothing for their time, efforts, or expenses in doing so. Consumers Report's happens to be a viable third party source, but they have done nothing to this date.
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Are you asking my opinion?
Ok:
How about all the spa companies pay a yearly service fee to be included as part of the research that a completely neutral third party who rates and reviews spas does? For a nominal fee each year, this "Spa Review Board" would test every tub submitted to it in the same enviornment and publish their results for consumers and manufacturers alike. They could review the energy efficiency, gallons per minute per jet, plus have a "comfort and quality" review section as well.
Companies who scored well could hang their 5 star awards on banners outside their stores and on their websites. Companies who didn't....well...they'd know in which areas to do better.
Perhaps some of the spa experts here could start something like this up? I'm surprised with all the choices that one doesn't exist already. There's got to be a fortune in it. :)
Josh:
--- Quote ---Josh, the post directly above yours, posted 20 minutes earlier, has the Arctic study, that was done with many different spas, by a 3rd party... Are you not reading posts before responding?????
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Did YOU read it?
The Arctic Spa study he linked only listed 5 different brands, available in 2005.
I was looking for something a little more broad (if it existed). It's been pointed out by clover that such a thing does not exist yet.
Zep:
"No one company stands leaps and bounds over others in
operational costs even though some will claim superiority"
LOL
Dr. Spa™ Ret.:
I've read it, re-read it, archived a copy of it on 3 computers so as not to lose it, reposted it across the net, ripped it apart, and praised it for at least being done...........
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Did YOU read it?
The Arctic Spa study he linked only listed 5 different brands, available in 2005.
I was looking for something a little more broad (if it existed). It's been pointed out by clover that such a thing does not exist yet.
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