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Horse power
drewstar:
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Heck, there is a nut who sells spas over the internet who puts a couple huge pumps in his spas that require a 70A service. It basically removes back hair and makes the power meter spin wildly but he finds some who think that's what they want.
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When the basic design of a tub's insualtion is dependent on heat generated by the pumps, what do you expect? Smaller, cooler running plumbing? ::)
Josh:
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When the basic design of a tub's insualtion is dependent on heat generated by the pumps, what do you expect? Smaller, cooler running plumbing? ::)
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I heard some spa dealer (I think Arctic) saying that the heat of their pumps kept the water at temperature, even in the coldest winters. They pride themselves on barely needing their heater.
Pumps take energy, Heaters take energy......I think anyone who claims to have an "energy efficient" tub is just being silly. No matter what your design is, you're still just a big bowl for hundreds of gallons of water that needs to reach (and maintain) temperatures of over 100 degrees.
Repeat_Offender:
Funny that was brought up. The most efficient pumps are those that convert most of the energy they consume into motion, while the least efficient are those that convert most of their energy consumed into waste heat. Of course that salesmans pitch will be how that "waste" heat all magically goes back into the water.
You can't win....
Spatech_tuo:
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If you want to call extra power a gimmick designed by a smaller company to cater to a certain market, I'll agree with you. That's how smaller companies get bigger. They look at what the leaders are doing, and if they want to become a leader, they need to match that performance, then do more. Google used to be a little nothing search engine compared to giants like Yahoo, Alta Vista and Lycos, but they made a competitive product and now they're on top. Most of the other leaders from 10 years ago are barely also-rans now.
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Pumps take energy, Heaters take energy......I think anyone who claims to have an "energy efficient" tub is just being silly.
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I guess I'll have to defer to your vast spa knowledge. I didn't realize how companies work in this industry, how spas are made and marketed or that "energy efficient" spas are silly. ;);D
In Canada eh:
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Powernoodle,
I'm not picking on you but your statement goes exactly to the point I was trying to make.
Horsepower has nothing to do with the movement of water at all, the pumps internal inpellor and the design of the plumbing system are the only things that contribute to the ease of water movement.
Please remember that the pump and the motor are two different things. Motors are rated by voltage and amps and that can be converted to horsepower. Pumps are rated by flow rates and pressure the two have very little to do with one another, other then the higher the head pressure on the pump the more horsepower it will take to achieve the max flow rate along a pumps curve.
Josh,
I'm glad you purchased a tub that you enjoy and I do not mean to say that there is anything wrong with the tub you bought. I'm just trying to clarify a marketing strategy that the industry is using that makes very little sense
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