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Josh:

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Josh, the HS models typically sell for more than similarly equipped Jacuzzi spas--at least in my area they do. I'm surprised that in your area the HS spas were "cheaper" than Jacuzzi.


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In the interest of full disclosure, I'm talking sticker prices. I didn't go back and try to wheel and deal with either dealership because neither one had a tub that was in my top two choices.   The Jacuzzi 470 would have been number 3....but I got a good enough price on my first choice that I didn't need to explore the backups any further.

Spatech_tuo:

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I think the dealers who sell tubs with less horsepower didn't use it as a selling point because...well, they have less horsepower.  Most spa places I went to weren't exactly keen on pointing out the shortcomings of their product (they usually spent time talking about the shortcomings of everyone else's product).  
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Less HP than who? Sundance, Hot Spring, Marquis, Caldera, D1, and Jacuzzi all sell spas with similar HP. They are also the leaders in the industry relative to spas sold (and quality IMO). I hardly think it is a "shortcoming" the way they design their spas but more that some of the secondary players in the industry may have decided that one way to grab a slice of the pie is to market more HP or optional pumps or jets a la carte (the “any way you want it” way is a recipe for quality issues but that’s another subject). I don't blame them as they need a sales pitch and it works with a lot of people but it's certainly not an issue that the top guys are underpowering their spas LOL.

powernoodle:
Gotta remember many people do not wet test spas.  They go by what the salesman pitch and company.  Some sales people have stretched the HP as sales pitches and it works on many people.  I have many customers that come in and the first thing asked is HP and nothing on how the spa is designed to flow the water.  They wanna hear power and how many jets.  I believe HP does help the flow of water but it also depends on how the spa is designed.  
We have 3 spas that have a 3rd pump.  All these spas are larger and more jets.  The third pump was designed and plummed for thee dome and foot jets only.
Therapeutic is suppose to be calming and soothing massage, not a body beating...lol

Josh:

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Less HP than who? Sundance, Hot Spring, Marquis, Caldera, D1, and Jacuzzi all sell spas with similar HP. They are also the leaders in the industry relative to spas sold (and quality IMO). I hardly think it is a "shortcoming" the way they design their spas but more that some of the secondary players in the industry may have decided that one way to grab a slice of the pie is to market more HP or optional pumps or jets a la carte (the “any way you want it” way is a recipe for quality issues but that’s another subject). I don't blame them as they need a sales pitch and it works with a lot of people but it's certainly not an issue that the top guys are underpowering their spas LOL.
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If you want to call extra power a gimmick designed by a smaller company to cater to a certain market, I'll agree with you.  That's how smaller companies get bigger.  They look at what the leaders are doing, and if they want to become a leader, they need to match that performance, then do more.  Google used to be a little nothing search engine compared to giants like Yahoo, Alta Vista and Lycos, but they made a competitive product and now they're on top.  Most of the other leaders from 10 years ago are barely also-rans now.

I think the folks that are catering to folks like me (who like "More") are smart. I didn't buy my spa because of the sales pitch.  I bought it because of the wet test.  It was a better experience than any tub I sat in.   I largely ignored the sales pitch everywhere I went, because I got tired of listening to every dealer tell me why other spas sucked.  I decided to wet test, and let the spas speak for themselves, then I bought the one that felt the best to me.

People can argue until they're blue in the face that  extra horsepower doesn't matter, but in my research, it sure seems like it did.   I think the only way for other folks to see if it truly matters to them is to go jump in a bunch of tubs and find out for themselves.  Internet theories can only get you so far.

Josh:

--- Quote ---Gotta remember many people do not wet test spas.  They go by what the salesman pitch and company.  Some sales people have stretched the HP as sales pitches and it works on many people.  I have many customers that come in and the first thing asked is HP and nothing on how the spa is designed to flow the water.  They wanna hear power and how many jets.  I believe HP does help the flow of water but it also depends on how the spa is designed.  
We have 3 spas that have a 3rd pump.  All these spas are larger and more jets.  The third pump was designed and plummed for thee dome and foot jets only.
Therapeutic is suppose to be calming and soothing massage, not a body beating...lol
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What brand do you sell?

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