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Horse power
Josh:
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Which Hot Spring models did you test??
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I tried out an Envoy and the Vista. I also had the Grandee and Vanguard on my list...but ruled the latter two out after I decided to go for a model with a lounger. Of the loungers I tested....neither was "the one" although I liked both a lot. The back massagers in the hot springs tubs (up and down) were unique among any tub I tested (and by far my favorite thing about that brand). I loved the Wireless stereo receiver and pop up speakers so much that if I would have bought a Hot Springs tub, I would have had one installed.
--- Quote ---Someone needs to lighten up. First of all Josh clearly stated his opinions are based on his experience. He is a consumer and as such has nothing to gain by trying to sway other members here. Secondly, being a salesperson in NO WAY qualifies you as an expert. Period. As a matter of fact most consumers would describe the vast majority of salespeople as, in your words, "trying to pass off a handful of crap as chocolate." Nothing new there.
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Thanks Repeat Offender. I'm certainly not trying to pass my opinions or personal experience off as anything but. If anything....I'm trying to understand why people think horsepower means nothing. Personally....it seems like common sense to me that more horsepower or more pumps would simply move more water around. To hear otherwise is sort of suprising to me, but I'm not saying I know better or anything.
In Canada eh:
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If anything....I'm trying to understand why people think horsepower means nothing. Personally....it seems like common sense to me that more horsepower or more pumps would simply move more water around. To hear otherwise is sort of suprising to me, but I'm not saying I know better or anything.
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Josh,
A good example of this is the plant I work at, we have 3, 8000 gpm pumps, 2 are 600 hp and one is 750 hp. This is largely due to the fact that the 2 600 hp pumps are vertical turbine and the 750 hp pump is a double end suction split case. The vertical turbine is a lot more efficient and uses multiple impellers to increase flow rates. While all 3 are 8000 gpm the design of the pump allows 2 of them to use a lower hp motor
Josh:
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Josh,
A good example of this is the plant I work at, we have 3, 8000 gpm pumps, 2 are 600 hp and one is 750 hp. This is largely due to the fact that the 2 600 hp pumps are vertical turbine and the 750 hp pump is a double end suction split case. The vertical turbine is a lot more efficient and uses multiple impellers to increase flow rates. While all 3 are 8000 gpm the design of the pump allows 2 of them to use a lower hp motor
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I'm not sure I understand how that example applies to this particular topic. I don't think anyone is going to argue about whether or not you can squeeze good performance out of something that has less horsepower if it's engineered properly. People here are talking about whether or not horsepower matters at all.
As far as hot tubs go.....if a tub with more pumps (or higher horsepower pumps) feels better (and feels more powerful) than one with fewer pumps (or fewer horsepower) doesn't that mean that in that particular instance....it's possible that it's benefitting from that extra power?
Or do you think it just means that particular tub is engineered better...and that the amount of pumps (or horsepower of pumps) doesn't mean anything?
AstaLaVista:
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Josh,
A good example of this is the plant I work at, we have 3, 8000 gpm pumps, 2 are 600 hp and one is 750 hp. This is largely due to the fact that the 2 600 hp pumps are vertical turbine and the 750 hp pump is a double end suction split case. The vertical turbine is a lot more efficient and uses multiple impellers to increase flow rates. While all 3 are 8000 gpm the design of the pump allows 2 of them to use a lower hp motor
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That was a very good way to explain it.... I still don't think he got it. :o
Spatech_tuo:
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As far as hot tubs go.....if a tub with more pumps (or higher horsepower pumps) feels better (and feels more powerful) than one with fewer pumps (or fewer horsepower) doesn't that mean that in that particular instance....it's possible that it's benefitting from that extra power?
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In that example, sure, if it feels better then the extra pump/horsepwoer may be worth it.
The problem is there are a many spa makers out there that do not efficiently design their spas and the extra HP/pump really isn't a benefit over another spa that may have less HP but is better designed. This is why a wet test is so important. Extra HP guarantees nothing but extra energy costs until the wet test shows its worth it.
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