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drewstar:
I agree, there isn't too many consumers chiming in on these spas. That in of itself seems unselttleing to me. What do you like about this spa?


Are you flying to Colorodo specifically to wet test this tub?

stuart:
Now I'm confused? You would spend extra money to fly up to Denver from Phoenix to potentially purchase a very high dollar spa from someone that badmouths the entire industry yet you don't like how the industry badmouths??? ???

To my knowledge, every major brand is represented in Phoenix...Stick with a local dealer with local support that you can look in the eye on a day to day basis and form a customer service relationship!

I don't care whether the spas are everything he says they are or not...There is no way for him to take care of you like a local dealer!

spaman--:
Wow! Send an E-Mail to this gentleman paul.comfort@intertek.com <paul.comfort@intertek.com>  and ask him if these spas are ETL listed.Further more make sure you are allowed to install a non UL or ETL listed in your area, as in Colorado and many states it is illegal to install a non UL listed or ETL listed spa, further more you may want to look at the company that builds the **** Spas (Phoenix Spas) as they offer the product before it is rebranded at a fraction of the cost. In reality you may want to actually check out the major brands as there is a reason they havent adopted the theiries of ****spas. ;)

Spatech_tuo:
The guy who sells those spas over the net has a reputation in the industry as a hot head that buys a Phoenix spa and rebrands it as his own. He's had customers start web sites to chronicle how he does not provide service when things go wrong (the check is already cashed at that point). I can show you how he's been sued by his bank for nonpayment so i certainly wouldn't trust him with my $$. He's changed his name at some point and never explained that one so hat's a red flag for me. His website is full of half-truths, exaggerations and flat out lies. He's been banned by most every spa forum he's ever been on for his belligerent behavior and for deceit by posting as a spa salesman of another company at the same time so he can have a contrived conversation to try to make himself appear superior (he has a messiah complex). The list goes on and on and on. The few people who do end up buying from him are the conspiracy theorists who believe he has the truth and the industry is trying to keep him down (THE MAN that is). The simple reality is he takes a so-so spa brand (Phoenix spas) and has them build a spa for him with his label and he then jacks up the price considerably (I'm guessing 20% more than a comparable Phoenix spa) yet you get no local service when things go wrong (I know, he says he’ll find someone in the yellow pages in your area, good luck on that one). I would avoid him like the plague that he is.  

spaman--:
In Phoenix you have the best opportunity to shop all major brands right there on Bell road.Go to Paddock at Arrowhead and talk to Dawn, or go to Family time and talk only to Mark Sr. or got to Four seasons and talk only to Trevor,or Acrylic Spas and talk to Ramsey or Roger. Those are the people who know their product and have integrety in your area.The real pro on that road recently moved to Colorado,but one of these people will have the right tub for you.I would not buy any where else if I were in your shoes.

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