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Cal Spas, opinions on quality vs. price?
Mendocino101:
as a per roll price (500 ft) I think it is about 20.00 per roll. Number 6 is the safe and common answer but if your run is short enough than number 8 is fine and again within electrical code.
drewstar:
Ok. Thanks for the info. Good stuff.
Sounds like the #6 AGW moaning is a non issue then.
Wisoki:
Well, I'm not really aware of all the ins and outs of Cal's warranty, but the need for a number 6 ground wire is rediculous. If your hots and neutral a #6 then #10 is sufficient for ground. The difference is you CAN buy 6/3 wire w/#10 ground all in one, you CANNOT buy 6/3 wire w/#6 ground all in one. Froom the consumers stand point, the extra money spent on installation pulling 4 seperate wires is about a hundred bucks, parts and labor. Oh I guess when you are spending 5,6,7 or 8K a hundred more bucks aint nuthin, in my house that's groceries for a week!
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Ok. Thanks for the info. Good stuff.
Sounds like the #6 AGW moaning is a non issue then.
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SpaMan:
--- Quote ---Well, I'm not really aware of all the ins and outs of Cal's warranty, but the need for a number 6 ground wire is rediculous. If your hots and neutral a #6 then #10 is sufficient for ground. The difference is you CAN buy 6/3 wire w/#10 ground all in one, you CANNOT buy 6/3 wire w/#6 ground all in one. Froom the consumers stand point, the extra money spent on installation pulling 4 seperate wires is about a hundred bucks, parts and labor. Oh I guess when you are spending 5,6,7 or 8K a hundred more bucks aint nuthin, in my house that's groceries for a week!
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Check the local codes to see if a #10 is o.k you may be surprised!
Brewman:
When I ran a 100 amp sub panel to our basement, I used (2) 4 awg copper THWN wires for the hot leads, a#6 neutral, and would have been allowed a #8 ground. I opted to use a #6 ground, as the cost per foot wasn't much even for the length of the run, probably less than $10 extra.
I fed the spa from this sub panel. My spa doesn't need a neutral, so I ran (2) 6 awg THWN hots, and a #8 ground. I could have ran a #10, it was allowed per code, but I opted for the #8. The cost difference was only a few bucks in this case. Had I needed a neutral, I would have been allowed to run a #8.
But in both instances I was allowed to go one size smaller for the neutral, and two sizes smaller for the ground.
This job was inspected and approved by our state board of electricity.
In my area we're not allowed to feed a spa with romex, becase the ground isn't insulated. Sizewise it'd be okay.
NEC allows downsizing neutrals and grounds in some instances, but local rules can override.
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