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Tman122:
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--- Quote from: Tman122 on May 21, 2011, 05:38:06 pm ---So you have metered this tub?
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No I haven't, but I have compared my bill with my brother-in-law's bill who lives in the same town, uses his tub as often as I do mine but at a slightly lower temperature ( 38.5o vs 38.0o).
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So you both have the same amount of electrical appliances running that are the same brand and size. You both have the same lights on all the time and everything? I'm sorry but until you meter a tub there is no way to do anything but speculate on what operating costs are.
So your assumption that your tub is just as energy effecient as some other tub is false. I'm just sayin.....
footie:
--- Quote from: Tman122 on May 22, 2011, 06:12:56 am ---So you both have the same amount of electrical appliances running that are the same brand and size. You both have the same lights on all the time and everything? I'm sorry but until you meter a tub there is no way to do anything but speculate on what operating costs are.
So your assumption that your tub is just as energy effecient as some other tub is false. I'm just sayin.....
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We are both basing these figures on previous bills at the same time of year but without the tub in those figures compared to bills at the same time with the tub. Yes I know there may well be differences between these two bills but that said both our two bills year on year per quarter were pretty consistent.
But if you want to be totally anal and isolete only the usage of the tub, then no I am only making a guess. You could question the differences in hp output of each brand's pump, whether all jets were on at each occasion, the wind conditions, the air temperature, etc, etc. You could definitely pull holes in my opinion but as I said it's a non-scientific comparison based on our experience. He's happy with his tub and I'm happy with mine.
castletonia:
Not to continue an argument which will put this thread in the beating a dead horse section, but like Tman122 stated, unless a tub is metered then there is no way of knowing the exact operating expenses. Even when an energy usage chart is provided by a manufacturer the criteria (outside air temperature and usage) will not be able to reflect a true operating cost because they are not realistic. All of the energy charts I have seen and none have been from Coast, have stated an ambient air temperature of either 60 degrees or 70 degrees, tub set at 102, and being used three times per week at 20 minutes per session. Common sense will tell someone that whatever those charts say are going to be lower than what actual operating costs will be.
Being a Coast dealer, I can say based on feedback from customers, and my boss who has a Coast Phantom (previously had a Cal Spa Atlantic and before that a Saratoga Victoria) that a Coast if insulated the same as a competing spa with similar specs is going to be about the same to operate.
Footie is happy with his Niagara and that is great. Maybe comparing usage with his brother-in-laws is not an exact science but it should give a relatively accurate indication because if the Coast was more efficient than the HotSprings or the other way, then there would probably be a noticeable discrepancy. And with regards to the cover, when looking at the Phantom I have on my floor, the cover fits just as good as it would if it were a flat top. Sunstar did a great job making the covers fit well.
footie:
Love the look of the phantom, is it five proper full height seats with three lower level seats at the negative edge, also spec vs spec how does it's price compare with my niagara?
castletonia:
The two side seats and the waterfall seat are the deeper seats in the spa with the remaining ones being shallower. I will note that I don't personally consider any seat in the Phantom to be a real deep seat though. Being that I don't have the Niagara on my floor, instead I have the Journey which is the same except without the vanishing edge, I am not sure of the price difference off hand.
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