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Coast Spas
spa goddess:
I don't understand why you keep harping on the seal. There is no problem with the cover. In the winter you do not see steam rising out anywhere. It is treated exactly like a flat cover with pillows at the creases. The seal is no less or no more than any other premium cover in the market. The spa doesn't cost any more to own energy wise than any other spa of it's size in the same climate and I would say it is likely less costly because of the efficiency with the 5 or 7 hp pumps, insulation, etc.
You also like to repeat "style over substance". In this case it would be style ALONG with sustance. My preferences as a dealer mean very little in any case. The homeowner is the one who makes the decision. The same people who might choose stiletto heels over flats. Comfortable stiletto heels! Style matters thank God or we all would be wearing the same thing. For those that are concerned about the specialty cover there are plenty of other tubs in the Coast line up that can fulfill their needs.
This is a designer tub for the people that find design matters. It is not meant to fulfill everyone's tub desires.
Spatech_tuo:
--- Quote from: spa goddess on May 20, 2011, 12:44:03 pm ---I don't understand why you keep harping on the seal. There is no problem with the cover. In the winter you do not see steam rising out anywhere. It is treated exactly like a flat cover with pillows at the creases. The seal is no less or no more than any other premium cover in the market. The spa doesn't cost any more to own energy wise than any other spa of it's size in the same climate and I would say it is likely less costly because of the efficiency with the 5 or 7 hp pumps, insulation, etc.
You also like to repeat "style over substance". In this case it would be style ALONG with sustance. My preferences as a dealer mean very little in any case. The homeowner is the one who makes the decision. The same people who might choose stiletto heels over flats. Comfortable stiletto heels! Style matters thank God or we all would be wearing the same thing. For those that are concerned about the specialty cover there are plenty of other tubs in the Coast line up that can fulfill their needs.
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I only brought this up after an owner of this exact style tub reported it doesn't seal well and because I can see how this can be an issue with a non-flat bar top. I imagine they had concerns in development but Marketing usually wins out. As far as style over substance, I understand they did it for a look but deciding to drop the front edge is 100% for visual effect so its totally style over substance not to mention it limits you to an OEM cover than is about $200 more expensive due to the intricacy of it. It’s not like its the only example of style over substance in the industry but when it causes other issues such as sealing of the cover I’m not a fan. Heck, waterfalls are all about style but they don't cause any other undue issue really. I'm just saying if I were looking at Coast I'd skip these models and look at the traditional flat bartop spas. I’m not knocking Coast overall.
--- Quote from: spa goddess on May 20, 2011, 12:44:03 pm ---
This is a designer tub for the people that find design matters. It is not meant to fulfill everyone's tub desires.
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I totally agree, as I said I'm just saying if I were looking at Coast I'd skip these models and look at the traditional flat bartop spas. I’m not knocking Coast overall.
Others such as D1 also have a lot of "out of the box" designs also but they stick with flat bartops. I may be more of a purist overall but no matter the design I'd want a flat bartop whether its Coast, Jacuzzi or whomever, maybe its just me.
spa goddess:
Sweetie,
You get to keep your flat top! :D I'll be happy to sell you or anyone else one! In this market I'm grateful for every sale and so glad we have choices. There is nothing wrong with tradition! (or innovation)
footie:
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on May 20, 2011, 01:42:24 pm ---I only brought this up after an owner of this exact style tub reported it doesn't seal well and because I can see how this can be an issue with a non-flat bar top. I imagine they had concerns in development but Marketing usually wins out. As far as style over substance, I understand they did it for a look but deciding to drop the front edge is 100% for visual effect so its totally style over substance not to mention it limits you to an OEM cover than is about $200 more expensive due to the intricacy of it. It’s not like its the only example of style over substance in the industry but when it causes other issues such as sealing of the cover I’m not a fan. Heck, waterfalls are all about style but they don't cause any other undue issue really. I'm just saying if I were looking at Coast I'd skip these models and look at the traditional flat bartop spas. I’m not knocking Coast overall.
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Your are exaggerating my words about the seal and doing so to suit your argument here. Yes I did say the seal wasn't perfect but it's definitely not near as bad as you are making out, after all I'm the one who should know. ;D The overall efficiency of the tub is on par with it's equivalents, surely you would agree that a HotSprings is of this caliber?
And another thing, the front edge isn't purely for visuals, I explained it's benefits from my own personal experience having this lowered lip, you can speak to guests that are outside of the tub without them having to stand up, plus if you have a great view you would love to look over (like the countryside) then this tub lends itself perfectly to it. As for waterfalls, may I suggest trying that center seat with the wide waterfall, it's seat sits higher than the others yet the waterfall flows over your shoulders keeping you as warm as any other person in the tub, it's my wife's personal favourite.
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on May 20, 2011, 01:42:24 pm ---I totally agree, as I said I'm just saying if I were looking at Coast I'd skip these models and look at the traditional flat bartop spas. I’m not knocking Coast overall.
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It's not the dealer's opinion/personal preference that's important here but the desires of the customer. Clearly this design feature is proving popular here at least because my dealer says it's his top selling model, that statement on a tub that is up near the top of Coast's range.
--- Quote from: Spatech_tuo on May 20, 2011, 01:42:24 pm ---Others such as D1 also have a lot of "out of the box" designs also but they stick with flat bartops. I may be more of a purist overall but no matter the design I'd want a flat bartop whether its Coast, Jacuzzi or whomever, maybe its just me.
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If that is your own personal perference when picking one for yourself then I can't argue with that, I said each to their own but personally I love my tub for all those unique features that in my mind enhance the whole experience.
spa goddess:
I agree Footie. When I speak of visual I am referring to the view both inside and outside of the tub. I'm so glad you are enjoying your spa and I'm sure you will have many happy memories with it over the years. :)
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