Costco tubs for $5500 would you get one???

[Zep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azf9BryZ3A4

[Shaamus]

That spa Chas is showing is exactly what I am talking about.  Not all elite brand manufacturer spas are $10k.  If your budget is $5000-6000, it doesn't mean you can only shop at Costco.  On the other hand, I think retailers need to do a better job of comparing comparable price point models instead of just dismissing the low price point tubs all together.

[Hillbilly Hot Tub]

If money is an issue maybe you should browse CraigsList.com
Here is one on CraigsList in Calgary.

Be advised though unless you buy a top brand from
a dealer there is always some risk.

[size=18]2008 Model Hot Tub - $2650[/size]

Date: 2008-11-12, 8:59AM MST

Relax and enjoy in your very own spa!!! 6 person hot tub
with built-in waterfall, 6 bhp pump, LED mood lighting,
comes fully loaded with mfg warranty and 24/7 tech support.
Cost $5200 Sell for $2650. Call 403-770-0212



http://calgary.en.craigslist.ca/for/915971605.html

This is an Infinity spa, we know the mold well since the bought them from Waters Edge back a few years ago. Have fun with the 24/7 since they are not answering the phones!

[Kialda]

If money is an issue maybe you should browse CraigsList.com
Here is one on CraigsList in Calgary.

Be advised though unless you buy a top brand from
a dealer there is always some risk.

[size=18]2008 Model Hot Tub - $2650[/size]

Date: 2008-11-12, 8:59AM MST

Relax and enjoy in your very own spa!!! 6 person hot tub
with built-in waterfall, 6 bhp pump, LED mood lighting,
comes fully loaded with mfg warranty and 24/7 tech support.
Cost $5200 Sell for $2650. Call 403-770-0212



http://calgary.en.craigslist.ca/for/915971605.html

personally I think this ad should not be legal. There is a guy here that uses the same misleading tactic. I believe they are flat out lying to a consumer by using the term "cost"

They should be saying MSRP is 5200.00, as we know even this number is inflated and misleading, but certainly not the cost.

When someone uses the term cost, it should mean what they paid for the item. Many people think these ads are a consumer that bought a spa for 5200, now does not want it and is willing to sell it for a 50% loss. The sign bandit up my way prints these road signs that look like someone used a marker when they actually have them printed in large quantities that way. They even say, "still in wrapper" to try to convince people someone is selling this for a loss. They also use the term cost.
   These folks are back door dealers that work out of there house or a garage and mislead the public and flat out lie with the term "cost".
   I guess there is a sucker born every minute..

[Zep]

yeah I guess a buyer would find that all out upon taking a look in person, but yeah it even made me wonder if it was someone that had won a spa in a raffle or something and was trying to get rid of it.

i think maybe if it's possible CraigsList and others like e-Bay should have a check mark box that says something like "This seller in an individual and not a business"....just to help clarify to potential buyers who they are buying from.

Of course there are many individual sellers that are not in the business on CraigsList and e-bay that are just trying to sell their tub for a variety of reasons.

Usually the buyer has all the power and should be an informed buyer.

[Dr. Spa™ Ret.]

i think maybe if it's possible CraigsList and others like e-Bay should have a check mark box that says something like "This seller in an individual and not a business"....just to help clarify to potential buyers who they are buying from.

That's a great idea. I mean, these sellers are using BS marketing words, here's a place they'd be forced to be honest   (sorry, couldn't resist)

(craigslist currently does this for car sales.... how many dealers do you think actually check the box saying they're a dealer, not an individual?)

[Zep]

doc there is a way to break into fort knox does
that mean we should leave the doors open?

[Kialda]

i think maybe if it's possible CraigsList and others like e-Bay should have a check mark box that says something like "This seller in an individual and not a business"....just to help clarify to potential buyers who they are buying from.

It would not matter. They would still lie. There is a guy in my state that tells folks he is not a spa store. He just buys a few to give people the best deal he can because he just cares. Thats why he sells the way he does. This is the tactic he uses to run his HOME BUSINESS. Would this guy check off Business or individual on the box option. One more way to legitimize his deception.

[Zep]

true not much in life is 100% effective

we have all kinds of rules/laws in society that are broken everyday

but i think if a guy checked "Not A Business" and potential clients
drove for miles to come look at his products and found out the guy
was lying some would be pissed off enough to mark a complaint
or provide negative feedback like on e-bay. I am EXTREMELY
protective of my 100% Positive feedback rating on e-Bay after
447 transactions.

[Kialda]

true not much in life is 100% effective

we have all kinds of rules/laws in society that are broken everyday

but i think if a guy checked "Not A Business" and potential clients
drove for miles to come look at his products and found out the guy
was lying some would be pissed off enough to mark a complaint
or provide negative feedback like on e-bay. I am EXTREMELY
protective of my 100% Positive feedback rating on e-Bay after
447 transactions.

I agree, but you are an honerable person. So they only bring one spa in the garage at home at a time for pick-up. Believe me, they are in the business to decieve, I see there signs everyday and talk to there customers all the time.

[Dr. Spa™ Ret.]

doc there is a way to break into fort knox does
that mean we should leave the doors open?

Was that supposed to read;

IF there is a way to break into fort knox does
that mean we should leave the doors open?

The answer to that is, of course not, SEAL UP THE HOLE  

Using your example though, I think another analogy would be, "why bother closing the door at all, just tell people if they don't belong in there to stay out.". People that are liars and deceptive will simply CONTINUE to do so with any questions you might require them to answer. I think that if anything, the question would simply reinforce the belief a consumer might have that the seller is just a private party (not dealer).

People need to take responsibility for their own gullibility! You wouldn't believe how many potential customers I talk to that are comparing us to  someone else. When asked what it is about the other company they like, they frequently say, "the other company is rated #1 in the industry.". I ask how they know this and their response is that "it says so on the other site". Even after I explain to them that there is NO "organization that "rates" these products, not in the "industry" or anywhere in the entire world for that matter...and ask them, if they were selling crap, do you think they would say right on their website, "we were rated with the crappiest product in the industry", a lot of them STILL don't get it!

[Kialda]

We may not want to start a rumor to people in this industry that there is a way to break into fort knox right now.... 8-)

[Zep]

i must be missing something

there are liars on CraigsList
there are liars on e-Bay
there are liars at spa dealers

does that surprise anyone?

i have seen lots of hot tubs on CraigsList that are obviously being sold by
individuals who need/want to sell their hot tub, and some people if they are
so inclined can find a great deal on a used tub via CraigsList.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/for/932311951.html

[Kialda]

i must be missing something

there are liars on CraigsList
there are liars on e-Bay
there are liars at spa dealers

does that surprise anyone?

i have seen lots of hot tubs on CraigsList that are obviously being sold by
individuals who need/want to sell their hot tub, and some people if they are
so inclined can find a great deal on a used tub via CraigsList.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/for/932311951.html

Maybe it is me, but I dont think 3K is a great deal for an 8 year old Sovereign with no warranty, delivery etc. They also state that a Sovereign sells for 9500, is that true? do they really get $9500 for a 1 pump 33" deep spa?
 Holy Hot Tub Batman...

[Zep]

"Maybe it is me,

Maybe it's me, but it appears to me that you seem to think/imply
that good or great deals are not to be had on CraigsList for hot tubs?

Maybe great deals are to be had on all other products, just not Hot Tubs?

but I dont think 3K is a great deal for an 8 year
old Sovereign with no warranty, delivery etc"

BTW....I never said the link was a "great deal" but I'll play anyway.

Plus there are "not great deals" from a dealer too.

I dont think 3K is a great deal[/i]

Well I guess that depends doesn't it?

If you really want a spa and you have $2500 & make an
offer on a Hot Spring and get what you need/can afford.... it may be a great deal.

The point wasn't that this one particular spa was "THE ONE",
it would have to be examined, get the history, study the owner...ect

The point is that it's possible to find a great used tub on Craigslist
irregardless of the fact that some scam artist may sell stuff on CraigsList.

They also state that a Sovereign sells for 9500, is that true? do they really
get $9500 for a 1 pump 33" deep spa?  Holy Hot Tub Batman... [/i]

I guess it depends where you buy it, but I think they usually go for about 7-8K.