Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?

[Spatech_tuo]

JJ

Having just checked the Wesite, ALL Arctics come with the forever floor.  


Chrisi  WWHT

Maybe it has changed but I've always know it to be an option (not sure how much) and the website still quotes it as such.

Already renowned for our sturdy wood floor, standard on every Arctic Spa, our engineers decided to raise the bar yet again by developing the Forever Floor®. Composed of hand-rolled fiberglass composites, this floor is impervious to moisture, pests, and time. It completely eliminates the need for foundation materials like concrete, decking, or blocks! Just set it on the ground, hook it up, fill and use...installation has never been easier and your floor will last forever in any conditions. In addition, your portable spa is now truly portable. If you move spa locations in your yard or if you move across town, the foundation comes with you.

[Water Boy]

It is still a option Spa Tech and JJ. Most people go with the Forever Floor. We sold two last year with wood floors, and that is because they went indoors.

[BauerN]

Forever floor is a good concept.  Since I've been working with Bullfrog they swithced from treated lumber on a sheet of ABS to solid ABS molding.

The old way worked fine enough (I do hate removing foam bottom spas - goarctic is right on there).  - it seems Term is showing me that is NOT always the case - conceded.

But - the solid molded ABS has a number of advantages.  Easier handling and much more attractive over time being my favorite.  It will last longer than the wood, and it is more precise than wood construction.

*IMO - Arctic's fiberglass solid "Forever Floor" will have all of the same advantages.

**JJ - you missed Limelight (don't get too mad at me   )

[Summitman]

Here's a picture of a 1986 HotSpring Sovereign with a foam floor and wooden frame we took in on trade a few weeks ago:



The cabinet needed to be restained, so I guess our service techs will do it.  It's for sale if anyone wants to come to Texas and git it.

Term

Good pic, looks to be in pretty good shape still!  

[Summitman]

Forever floor is a good concept.  Since I've been working with Bullfrog they swithced from treated lumber on a sheet of ABS to solid ABS molding.

The old way worked fine enough (I do hate removing foam bottom spas - goarctic is right on there).

But - the solid molded ABS has a number of advantages.  Easier handling and much more attractive over time being my favorite.  It will last longer than the wood, and it is more precise than wood construction.

*IMO - Arctic's fiberglass solid "Forever Floor" will have all of the same advantages.

**JJ - you missed Limelight (don't get too mad at me   )

lots of good points there bauer

fiberglass>>>abs>>>wood>>>>foam

IMO

[Jacuzzi Jim]

ABS pan??? Thats not even close, its a complete one piece fiberglass shell that your spa is setting on.  Its not a ABS pan.

 Oh, since its fiberglass that makes all the difference in the world.  

[BauerN]

In the application being discussed - equivalent amounts (i.e. - both are the same thickness) of either material should perform equally well - as in virtually NO TROUBLE.

Either material being ABS or fiberglass.

JJ - I think he means a solid skid vs. a flimsy 1/8" pan.  Old Bullfrogs had the pan - it wasn't nearly what a solid skid is.

[wewannahottub]

Maybe it has changed but I've always know it to be an option (not sure how much) and the website still quotes it as such.

Already renowned for our sturdy wood floor, standard on every Arctic Spa, our engineers decided to raise the bar yet again by developing the Forever Floor®. Composed of hand-rolled fiberglass composites, this floor is impervious to moisture, pests, and time. It completely eliminates the need for foundation materials like concrete, decking, or blocks! Just set it on the ground, hook it up, fill and use...installation has never been easier and your floor will last forever in any conditions. In addition, your portable spa is now truly portable. If you move spa locations in your yard or if you move across town, the foundation comes with you.

Thanks for re-reading--I was just picking up highlights, since I will be signing off for now to go to work.  
 
Thanks again yinz guys!!

Chrisi WWHT

[Hot Tub Guru]

The forever floor is just ANOTHER ARCTIC ADVANTAGE.  The spa can be set on any flat level base.  Example grass, dirt, pea gravel, paver stones, and many more options.  It's just one more thing Arctic does that everyone has the try to tare down.  It's a better way to build a spa.  Arctic isn't saying that ABS, plastic, foam, or wood (Arctic Standard Floor) is a bad way.  

Oh and I have sold only a small percentage of spas without the forever floor.

How come every thing that Arctic does has to be shot down by everyone else?  Why isn't this a good concept?  

Arctic makes a great spa!

[Pathfinder]

Simple, apparently everything Arctic does is super different but its not the case. You can set virtually any spa on a level base and it will fair fine.  The inside plumbing is no different its just clear and Arctic glues on the outside instead of inside the fitting  there's more but who wants to hear it all


PS I will give credit to Arctic for coming up with the slots for the forklift that was a great idea

[Water Boy]

Simple, apparently everything Arctic does is super different but its not the case. You can set virtually any spa on a level base and it will fair fine.to Arctic for coming up with the slots for the forklift that was a great idea

Not true Pathy. I know that in Hot Springs pre delivery guide it says that a 4 inch think concrete pad is required for two of their spas, and that it is recommended for five of their other spas. Many other brands say the same.

A concrete pad is NOT required with any Arctic Spa with a Forever Floor.

[Summitman]

Simple, apparently everything Arctic does is super different but its not the case. You can set virtually any spa on a level base and it will fair fine.  The inside plumbing is no different its just clear and Arctic glues on the outside instead of inside the fitting  there's more but who wants to hear it all


PS I will give credit to Arctic for coming up with the slots for the forklift that was a great idea

until you go to move it several years later and the motor that used to be in the spa is now yard art.

[Spatech_tuo]

Maybe there is more bickering on this website in 2008. If we start debating shell and siding colors I'm turning in my forum badge!

[Tom]

Composed of hand-rolled fiberglass composites

Hand-rolled no more.  As of 2008, all our Forever Floors are pressure-moulded fiberglass.   Same warranty AFAIK (just to stay on topic)

You may be wondering why the web site has not been updated for 2008.  The reason is a completely revamped site coming "soon".  

[BauerN]

I like the Forever Floor quite a bit - IMO it's every bit as good as what I sell in the Bullfrog full ABS skid.

It is definitely another Arctic Advantage.

I would, however, like to see some sort of backing for the claims that fiberglass is better than the space-age ABS in this application.