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Re: Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?
« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2008, 03:37:54 pm »
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But, for Termies' sake, when you pay that much more, it isn't JUST for the warranty!!! ;)

I never said it was.

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Re: Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?
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« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2008, 03:41:24 pm »
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The real question should be, if its called the "Forever Floor" why is it warrantied only for 5 years?  Irony???

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« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2008, 03:47:19 pm »
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7 years? Lifetime?

In the US the courts have already ruled that "lifetime" equates to 7 years.


Doc,

Do you know where I could find this in print?  I keep hearing that claim, but no one has ever been able to point me to a law in state or federal where a lifetime really means 7 years.

P.S.  For the record, I have personaly seen D-1 replace a spa that was 13 years old because the surface had cracked and D-1 offeres a lifetime structural and surface warranty.
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Re: Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?
« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2008, 04:09:20 pm »
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 So is forever then considered 10 years? Doesn't matter to me, but why is a forever floor needed from the std floor, or is it  just something to add to the price, kinda like undercoating for a car?

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« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2008, 04:11:10 pm »
I don't know if it's an actual written law, but is based on precedent setting lawsuits.

By all means, research into what setting precedence in a legal ruling is all about  (it would take me days to properly explain it).... (for background, my ex is one of those scum sucking sleaze bag sharks)
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« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2008, 04:29:11 pm »
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The real question should be, if its called the "Forever Floor" why is it warrantied only for 5 years?  Irony???


the other question would be why do a bunch of major manufacturers only use wood, foam, or how about this nothing for a floor?

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« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2008, 04:54:17 pm »
Ok, so the floor will last forever, but the rest of the spa is going to fall apart in 20 years? HEY, but the floor will still be there!

I don't think I've ever seen a spa that needed to be replaced because the "floor" failed. But, it is a nifty selling point
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« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2008, 04:55:43 pm »
 So since no one wanted to answer me I looked it up for myself, Its a freaking ABS pan for the most part.  ;D STANDARD on Jacuzzi, lets see who else Beach comber, Marquis,Coleman who else am I missing?   It is a nice feature though!

 I thought it had to do with the shell itself.    So your std floor is just wood then?

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Re: Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?
« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2008, 04:57:35 pm »
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Ok, so the floor will last forever, but the rest of the spa is going to fall apart in 20 years? HEY, but the floor will still be there!

I don't think I've ever seen a spa that needed to be replaced because the "floor" failed. But, it is a nifty selling point

 Being in the Pac NW we have removed quite a few spas with rotten framing only after 5 to 10 years. specially those with a deck built around them.

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« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2008, 04:58:20 pm »
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Ok, so the floor will last forever, but the rest of the spa is going to fall apart in 20 years? HEY, but the floor will still be there!

I don't think I've ever seen a spa that needed to be replaced because the "floor" failed. But, it is a nifty selling point


Ever try to move a spa with a foam floor after it sat there about 4 years?  Usually when we have done it the floor has deterioted so much that everything falls out when you pick it up.  When the shell has lifetime warranty on it and the floor lasts a lifetime, it would make sense money wise to make the necessary repairs to keep the same spa.  Or better yet it has more value when you trade it in or sell it for a new one!!!

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« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2008, 05:00:43 pm »
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So since no one wanted to answer me I looked it up for myself, Its a freaking ABS pan for the most part.  ;D STANDARD on Jacuzzi, lets see who else Beach comber, Marquis,Coleman who else am I missing?   It is a nice feature though!

 I thought it had to do with the shell itself.    So your std floor is just wood then?


ABS pan??? Thats not even close, its a complete one piece fiberglass shell that your spa is setting on.  Its not a ABS pan.

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Re: Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?
« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2008, 05:01:30 pm »
JJ

Having just checked the Wesite, ALL Arctics come with the forever floor.  

BTW,, hubby and I were just checking the Jacuzzi website.  Can you tell me about the lights (I like bling!!)--i.e. LED lights other than the cool=looking dual waterfall??  

Running out of time to keep looking--my turn to go to work.   :(

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Re: Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?
« Reply #72 on: March 27, 2008, 05:03:10 pm »
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Ever try to move a spa with a foam floor after it sat there about 4 years?  Usually when we have done it the floor has deterioted so much that everything falls out when you pick it up.  When the shell has lifetime warranty on it and the floor lasts a lifetime, it would make sense money wise to make the necessary repairs to keep the same spa.  Or better yet it has more value when you trade it in or sell it for a new one!!!


GA--

seems like a forever floor is a great concept to me, a newbie to the spa industry.

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Re: Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?
« Reply #73 on: March 27, 2008, 05:05:39 pm »
ABS or Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene, (chemical formula (C8H8· C4H6·C3H3N)n) is a common thermoplastic used to make light, rigid, molded products.

Forever Floor = Fiberglass floor, not ABS plastic.

Big difference there imo.
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Re: Dealers- What are your Spa's 2008 Warranty?
« Reply #74 on: March 27, 2008, 05:07:16 pm »
Here's a picture of a 1986 HotSpring Sovereign with a foam floor and wooden frame we took in on trade a few weeks ago:



The cabinet needed to be restained, so I guess our service techs will do it.  It's for sale if anyone wants to come to Texas and git it. :)

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