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Catilina Spas Buyer Beware !!!!
« on: December 29, 2007, 09:43:24 pm »
*BUYER BEWARE*

DEAR CONSUMER:

IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING TO BUY A CATALINA SPA I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT AS TO HOW WE WERE TREATED AFTER WE PURCHASED ONE AND YOU CAN DECIDE IF YOU STILL WANT ONE!!!!

A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO MY HUSBAND AND I WERE LOOKING FOR A SPA TO BUY.  WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES AND FINALLY DECIDED ON THE XL2300 CATALINA SPA.  

WE HAD ALWAYS IN THE PAST PURCHASED THE GRANITE LOOKING SPA WITH THE PLASTIC CASINGS AROUND THE JETS, WE WERE HOWEVER CONVINCED TO PURCHASE THE ACRYLIC LOOKING ONE WITH STAINLESS STEEL AROUND THE JETS AS IT WAS THE CADILLAC OF SPAS.  WE WERE A BIT SKEPTICAL BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE ACRYLIC TYPE AND WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE STAINLESS STEEL RUSTING.  WE WERE ASSURED THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN AND IF IT WAS EVEN POSSIBLE THAT THE WARRANTY WAS UNBEATABLE.  

WHEN IT CAME IN AND WE WENT TO PAY THE BALANCE ON IT THEY WERE RIGHT IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.  AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT DID LOOK WE HAD NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS WITH IT FROM DAY ONE.  

THE RADIO NEVER WORKED CORRECTLY AND THEY DID END UP REPLACING IT WITHIN ONE YEAR BUT TO DATE THAT RADIO DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY.  THE CONTROL ON THE TOP OF THE SPA TO CONTROL THE RADIO AND TURBO JETS NEVER WORKED PROPERLY AND THEY ADDRESSED THAT PROBLEM SEVERAL TIMES AND TO THIS DATE STILL DOES NOT WORK.  

OH DID I TELL YOU WHAT WE PAID BY THE TIME WE HAD A DECK TO PUT IT ON (OR A SLAB IF YOU CHOOSE), HOOK UP OF ELECTRICAL AND THE SPA ITSELF ($11,390.15) WE HAD A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY $13,000.00 INTO THE PURCHASE OF A NEW SPA.  

WELL A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO WE MOVED TO FLORIDA FROM NORTH CAROLINA AND PAID TO HAVE THE SPA PROFESSIONAL LIFTED FROM OUR DECK AND PUT ON A FLATBED TRUCK TO TRANSPORT TO FLORIDA WHERE IT WAS PROFESSIONALY PUT INTO OUR BACKYARD FOR A COST OF $1,500.00 WE ALSO HAD TO PAY $500.00 TO HAVE THE ELECTRICAL HOOKED UP ONCE AGAIN, $5,000.00 TO FENCE THE BACKYARD FOR PRIVACY AND $2,500.00 FOR A NEW DECK TO PUT IT ON.  

AFTER USING IT THE FIRST WINTER WE WERE BACK WE DRAINED THE SPA COMPLETELY, CLEANED IT, BLEW OUT ALL OF THE WATER  FOR THE SUMMER AS WE HAVE A POOL TO SWIM IN AS IT GETS VERY HOT IN FLORIDA, PUT THE COVER ON IT.  WHILE THE SPA WAS DRAINED IT WAS CHECKED ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO MAKE SURE IT WAS OKAY AND FOR AWHILE IT WAS.  

ABOUT A MONTH AGO MY HUSBAND WAS CHECKING IT AND NOTICED THAT ALL OF THE SUPPOSEDLY STAINLESS STEEL JETS HAD RUSTED AND DETERIORATED ON BOTH THE INSIDE AND OUT AND THE RUST HAD RUN DOWN THE BODY OF THE SPA AND STAINED IT.  

MY HUSBAND SPENT OVER 20 HOURS USING "CLR" TO TRY AND CLEAN THE CHROME PARTS AND THE SPA WITHOUT MUCH LUCK.  IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE PICTURES OF THE CADILLAC OF SPAS YOU CAN E-MAIL US AT VICNC910@AOL.COM .  

WE THEN THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT ? WE BOUGHT THE CADILLAC OF SPAS BACKED BY THE BEST WARRANTY POSSIBLE ! LETS GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM.

WELL WE WERE DIRECTED TO OUR DISTRICT PERSON RICK WHITTACKER AND TO NO AVAIL DID NOT RESPOND TO ANY PHONE CALLS OR E-MAILS.  WE THEN GOT FRUSTRATED AND CALLED DIRECTLY TO THE COMPANY IN CALIFORNIA AND THEY TURNED US OVER TO A GUY NAMED BOYD.  

HE DID RESPOND PROMPTLY HOWEVER, ALL HE COULD SAY IS HE HAD NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN HIS LIFE COULD WE PLEASE SEND HIM A COUPLE OF THE JETS.  

HE WAS TRYING TO TELL MY HUSBAND THAT IT WAS THE WATER HOWEVER MY HUSBAND ALREADY TOLD HIM THE THE SPA WAS COMPLETELY DRAINED AND WITH THE HIGH HEAT IN THE SUMMER IN FLORIDA ANY WATER LEFT IN THE PIPING WOULD HAVE EVAPORATED JUST LIKE OUR POOL DID A COUPLE OF INCHES EVERY WEEK!  

SO WE PACKAGED UP A COUPLE OF JETS (THERE ARE 90 IN ALL), SENT THEM TO BOYD AND HE CALLED MY HUSBAND WITH A VERY BAD ATTITUDE AND TOLD US IT WAS DEFINITELY THE WATER LEFT IN THE PIPES AND THAT IT WAS THE  CONSUMERS REPONSIBILITY AND THEY WERE NOT GOING TO DO A THING ABOUT IT.  

MY HUSBAND ONCE AGAIN TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT THERE WAS NO WATER IN THE SPA AND HOW DID IT EVEN RUST THE SCREWS UNDER THE SEALED PLASTIC PIECES AROUND THE WATER FALL AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN ANY WATER AT ALL.  

ALL MY HUSBAND GOT IN RESPONSE WAS GOOD OLE' BOYD HANGING UP ON HIM.  WELL BOYD SENT OUR JETS BACK TO US UNDERLINING A RESPONSE IN AN E-MAIL TO MY HUSBAND THAT IT WAS CONSUMER RESPONSIBILITY AND UNDERLINED A PRODUCT TO PURCHASE TO CLEAN THE JETS.  

HOWEVER EVEN IF THE JETS WERE CLEANED THEY HAVE BECOME VERY PITTED.  NOT ATTRACTIVE FOR THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WE PAID AND THEY ARE JUST GOING TO WASH THERE HANDS OF US.  

WE NOW HAVE A VERY EXPENSIVE SPA THAT WE PAID THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR JUST OVER TWO YEARS AGO THAT IS WORTH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.  MY HUSBAND AND I THOUGHT IT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE ANY POTENTIAL BUYER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO US.  

WE APPRECIATE AND THANK  YOU FOR THE TIME YOU TOOK TO READ THIS.  SO YOU AS A CONSUMER MUST DECIDE DO YOU WANT TO BUY A CATALINA SPA???????? :'(
« Last Edit: December 30, 2007, 11:50:44 am by VICSWFL »

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Catilina Spas Buyer Beware !!!!
« on: December 29, 2007, 09:43:24 pm »

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Re: Catilina Spas Buyer Beware !!!!
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 09:46:41 pm »
Thanks for using all caps.  Does nothing to entice me to read this rant.

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 09:55:11 pm »
THATS BECAUSE YOU DID NOT LOSE $11,000 + AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TEARS IN YOUR EYES !

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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 10:04:35 pm »
I'm sorry, but I was only able to get through about half of this post.  It was just too difficult to read.

Note to author:  In the future, please do not use ALL CAPS.  It is very hard to read and, when used in message boards, is considered the same as YELLING.  You might also consider using paragraphs.  My eyes hurt.  Good night.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2007, 10:33:42 pm »
At first I thought their caps lock key may be stuck/broke as both their post and screen name are in all caps but then I saw the subject headline and sure enough, it works!
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2007, 10:55:41 pm »
Sorry but I tried to read it and I can't because of the caps.  I am sorry about your issues, it really does suck.  If you get a chance to translate, please do.  When I looked at a Catalina, two out of six showroom models were faulty.  Never went back.  Looking forward to the rest of your post

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2007, 11:20:49 pm »
I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune. It was a little difficult to read. Perhaps you could edit the post without the caps and separate the sections with paragraphs. It would help us quite a bit--sorry.

Where did you purchase the spa from?
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007, 12:14:42 am »
1) First of all there are varying grades of stainless tell but all SS will rust/pit to some degree.

2) In my experience, I would expect more rusting when the SS is subject to some  humidity, much more so than if it is under water. When I was reading it I was waiting for the part about draining it and then later seeing rust. If the spa had been left idle with water the issue would have been MUCH less. I worked in a plating area with a company years ago and when we cleaned SS plates sometimes the guys would get lazy taking them out of the hot stripping solution and left them hanging above the bath too long to drain and that hot humid air caused them to rust pronto. Its the air and water that does it.

3) I don't see that you have much chance at resolution but if you continue to talk to Catalina about this stick to what matters, the jets and the stained spa. All the talk about how much it cost to move it, hook up electrical, build a deck, etc. is TOTALLY irrelevant to the issue.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2007, 12:54:26 am »
Did something happen after the costs incurred to move it? I too couldn't make it through the CAPS.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2007, 01:37:54 am »
ALLAKAZOOLA, MIGICABOOLA, BIPPITY BOPPITY BOO. PUT IT TOGETHER ANDWHATTAYAGOT?  BIPPITY BOPPITY BOO!

THOUGH YOU'RE IN PAIN, YOUR METHOD'S INSANE, AND ALL OF OUR EYES ARE STRAINED, TOO!  TURNTHECAPS OFF AND USE PARAGRAPHS, BIPPITY BOPPITY BOO!

IF IT'S INDEEDA BROKE CATALINA, THIS IS WHATYOUSHOULD DO: CALLA CONSUMER ADVOCATE GROUP, BIPPITY BOPPITY BOO!

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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2007, 02:27:11 am »
Im sorry you paid that much for a Catalina.  But when you bought your spa did you not notice that your warranty was prorated and basically after year 2 your screwed. If you read the 3rd page of your warranty it lists everything that will void your warranty. I dont even think they cover the radio, you have to go through whoever made it.

 Basically your S O L. All your issues are pretty much out of warranty and they will probably void the whole tub since it was moved from the original installation site.    We had a Catalina dealer open up in my city for 2 years under cut everyone then closed up shop. I get calls asking if I can find Catalina parts or if I can do warranty because nothing on their tub works.

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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2007, 09:10:27 am »
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Im sorry you paid that much for a Catalina.  But when you bought your spa did you not notice that your warranty was prorated and basically after year 2 your screwed. If you read the 3rd page of your warranty it lists everything that will void your warranty. I dont even think they cover the radio, you have to go through whoever made it.

 Basically your S O L. All your issues are pretty much out of warranty and they will probably void the whole tub since it was moved from the original installation site.    We had a Catalina dealer open up in my city for 2 years under cut everyone then closed up shop. I get calls asking if I can find Catalina parts or if I can do warranty because nothing on their tub works.
Wow. I just read their warranty online and all I have to say is, what a joke.

http://www.galaxy-1.com/spas/catalina/CatWarranty.pdf

They've got premium spa price tags with a Home Depot warranty.
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Re: Catilina Spas Buyer Beware !!!!
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2007, 11:44:10 am »
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THATS BECAUSE YOU DID NOT LOSE $11,000 + AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TEARS IN YOUR EYES !


This was 2 years ago and your just here now to tell us about it and you signed up for this forum just for that? Usually that makes me suspicious.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2007, 12:03:41 pm »
This was 2 years ago and your just here now to tell us about it and you signed up for this forum just for that? Usually that makes me suspicious

THE PROBLEMS STARTED THE DAY AFTER WE BOUGHT IT,STARTING WITH THE RADIO AND CONTROLS.

THE JETS RUSTED IN THE LAST 30 DAYS, WE WERE GOING TO FILL IT TO USE IT, SINCE THE TEMPS HERE IN FLORIDA FINALLY DROPPED WHERE WE COULD ENJOY THE SPA INSTEAD OF OUR POOL.

BOTH MY POOL SERVICE AND I WOULD CHECK THE INSIDE OF THE SPA AFTER ANY STRONG RAIN TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAN AND DRY AND IF THERE WAS AND CONDENSATION ,IT WOULD BE WIPED DOWN.

I AM SORRY FOR MAKING THE POST HARD TO READ, I HAVE SINCE BROKE IT UP INTO PARAGRAPHS AS SUGGESTED.

PLEASE CONTACT ME FOR PICTURES, THEY ARE WORTH 1000 WORDS !!!  :-/

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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2007, 12:21:15 pm »
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This was 2 years ago and your just here now to tell us about it and you signed up for this forum just for that? Usually that makes me suspicious

THE PROBLEMS STARTED THE DAY AFTER WE BOUGHT IT,STARTING WITH THE RADIO AND CONTROLS.

THE JETS RUSTED IN THE LAST 30 DAYS, WE WERE GOING TO FILL IT TO USE IT, SINCE THE TEMPS HERE IN FLORIDA FINALLY DROPPED WHERE WE COULD ENJOY THE SPA INSTEAD OF OUR POOL.

BOTH MY POOL SERVICE AND I WOULD CHECK THE INSIDE OF THE SPA AFTER ANY STRONG RAIN TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAN AND DRY AND IF THERE WAS AND CONDENSATION ,IT WOULD BE WIPED DOWN.

I AM SORRY FOR MAKING THE POST HARD TO READ, I HAVE SINCE BROKE IT UP INTO PARAGRAPHS AS SUGGESTED.

PLEASE CONTACT ME FOR PICTURES, THEY ARE WORTH 1000 WORDS !!!  :-/

Term, are you screwing with us again?

DIDN'T WE TELL YOU ABOUT THE CAPS? YOU'RE HURTING MY EYES.  ;D
« Last Edit: December 30, 2007, 12:27:34 pm by Gomboman »
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